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Duardo
08-16-2005, 04:17 PM
Is is possible to have an aux send from a subgroup? So, for instance, you can send all of your grouped backing vocals to a reverb rather than turning up a send on each individual channel?

Thanks!

-Duardo

Sheldon Radford
08-16-2005, 06:08 PM
Hi,

It is not possible to mix a group back into an aux (since they're both considered output buses) but there is a workable solution. Rather than send the group to an aux, and then send the aux to a reverb plug-in, it's possible with D-Show to simply send the group itself straight to the reverb plug-in. The only caveat is that this reverb is now dedicated to being fed by that group, and other non-grouped channels can't be mixed into the same reverb.

Solution? Add another reverb plug-in to the rack, fed by an aux send, and dial the channel sends for the non-grouped instruments. You still have a single "send" for the grouped instruments, with the added flexibility of being able to choose a dfferent reverb effect for the non-grouped instruments.

Sheldon

mattpete
08-16-2005, 06:18 PM
As Sheldon says, there are no Aux sends on the Groups. But here are a few ways you can accomplish basically the same thing.

1. Insert a reverb (in your example) on the Group itself.

or, if you want to have separate control of the reverb return level...

2. Feed the output of the Group to a reverb plug-in, and then return the plug-in output to Input or FX Return channels. You can do this while simultaneously routing the Group output to Main, Matrix/PQ mixes, any number of hardware outputs, Pro Tools, or to multiple plug-ins. It's pretty flexible! This is what Sheldon proposes above.

or, if you really need the signal to the reverb to be pre-fader on the Group...

3. Send the Group pre-fader to a Matrix or PQ mix, send the output of the Matrix mix to a plug-in, then return that to a Channel or FX Return.

Of course, there's nothing preventing you from using all three of these methods at the same time if you are feeling deviant.

-Matt

Sheldon Radford
08-16-2005, 06:33 PM
...and for extra deviant behavior let's add one more to the list of possibilities:

4. Feed the reverb from an aux send as normal, and use the multi-select function to select all of the vocal channels. Adjusting an aux send on any single vocal channel will then also adjust it for the other multi-selected channels. It will even account for an offset between different send levels - if you like the background vocals a bit wetter than the lead vocal, for example.

katoramone
01-29-2006, 08:29 AM
the above idea is awesome BUT simplicity rules the day.... insert baby insert.
k