Headphones for mixing!

[TiPo]

What do you think would be the best of these 3 new headphones for referencing your mixes or even for straight mixing?

1. Sennheiser HD800
People say this headphone is the most accurate ever created angled speaker headphones for 3 dimensional sounding that is more like a full sized high quality pair of speakers since the sound is coming in front of you! Its moving membrane is actually a ring which has less distortion than conventional headphone speaker design and produces very coherent sound waves.

2. Grado PS1000
Very dynamic and upfront sounding amazing headphone! People tend to love it very much!

3. Ultrasone Edition 8
Closed headphone with patented S-Logic for 3D spacing. It also has angled front to back speakers that utilizes the shape of your ears with that you can hear the 3 dimensional placement and direction of the source of the sound. It also has magnetic field shielding which is very health positive especially for long listening.

[tomhartman]

Originally Posted by TiPo

What do you think would be the best of these 3 new headphones for referencing your mixes or even for straight mixing?

1. Sennheiser HD800
People say this headphone is the most accurate ever created angled speaker headphones for 3 dimensional sounding that is more like a full sized high quality pair of speakers since the sound is coming in front of you! Its moving membrane is actually a ring which has less distortion than conventional headphone speaker design and produces very coherent sound waves.

2. Grado PS1000
Very dynamic and upfront sounding amazing headphone! People tend to love it very much!

3. Ultrasone Edition 8
Closed headphone with patented S-Logic for 3D spacing. It also has angled front to back speakers that utilizes the shape of your ears with that you can hear the 3 dimensional placement and direction of the source of the sound. It also has magnetic field shielding which is very health positive especially for long listening.

I have been using the Ultrasone 750s for a couple years now and they are very good. When I first got them, I thought they were a little boring on the song I was working on, then I would take off the phones and listen to the speakers, and it was boring there too So they represent what I was getting from my speakers really well. No hype in these.

TH

[SunsetLodge]

Hey Tipo,

Gear is all the same in one respect. You just gotta buy stuff, and try it out, then sell the stuff that doesn't work for you. There are soooo many levels of quality out there and alot of choices dont even have to do with quality. All I know is that everytime i have listenned to someone elses opinion to make a decision about buying gear, I end up making bad choices. Just pick one, buy it, then if its no good, sell it on Craigslist or Ebay and put that money into the next pair of headphones. Then, just do this for the rest of your career. Good Luck.

Also, after posting this, I realized, what the hell are you posting about headphones in TDM Mac ProTools forums? Go to gearslutz........

[midnightrambler]

Originally Posted by SunsetLodge

Also, after posting this, I realized, what the hell are you posting about headphones in TDM Mac ProTools forums? Go to gearslutz........

He probably wants opinions from people who actually know what they're talking about ;-)

I've been using HD600/HD650 for years and really love them, but I suppose I'm stating the obvious in that you can only do so much with headphones...at some point you gotta get those speakers moving some air...

[Rubicon]

+1 for Grado PS1000.

Very expensive, but the sound is truly even throughout the freq. range. I got my pair as a birthday gift from my wife in Oct. I used them recently to mix my solo piano cd, and I noticed I had dialed in a bit too much compression while I had the cans on. Always use speakers as well. What I enjoy about headphones is being able to hear automation moves much more clearly. I also got a pair of Dr. Dre Beats just to hear the "hype" factor. Haha!

Rubi

[HearInc]

I've had a pair of Ultrasone 650s for a few years and they sound great to me. I have mixed records on them, but wouldn't want to do that if I didn't have to.

[tomhartman]

Originally Posted by HearInc

I've had a pair of Ultrasone 650s for a few years and they sound great to me. I have mixed records on them, but wouldn't want to do that if I didn't have to.

Right I wouldn't want to mix records on any headphones.

TH

[studiostuff]

You can't mix on headphones.

[EvilElfBoy]

I use the Ultrasone 750 proline and my Beyerdynamic DT-770's. If I have to get some static levels and just to get a vibe of what it can sound like mixed those 2 pairs give me a good representation. Now the trick that I found was to use the 112db Redline Monitor plug-in.

It's worth checking out. These guys make fantastic plug-ins. Their EQ is one of the sickest out there. Can't use it with PT though, sample delay is far too much .

Here is a link:
http://www.112db.com/redline/monitor/

[TiPo]

Honestly I have not had the chance to try out any of the aforementioned headphones yet. As SunsetLodge stated it well, the best way to decide on a gear is to try it out yourself. Actually this is what I did all the time and this is how I made my final choices about gears. What I have realized is that in these choices usually the more expensive gear is the better, but there are some and can be some exceptions fortunately.
The only reason why I want other's opinions in this is that at least it gives me a direction about where to look for.
Also, SunsetLodge is kind of right about gearslutz, but the reason I posted here is that I am a Pro-Tools HD user and I also know that most of the professionals use Pro-Tools HD and Macintosh computers.
It is not to degrade the others who don't use Pro-Tools HD or Macintosh computers since good engineers are good engineers and they can get pro results with other gears as well. However, as midnightrambler suggested, it is not just factual, but also logical to assume that most of the good audio engineers have better chances to get great and professional results with the most expensive gears that money can buy. Hence with this logic in mind I think I have a better chance to get professional opinions from great engineers in this present forum that I have started this post.

To the others who mentioned not to mix with headphones:
You guys are generally right and also my experiences with my Sennheiser HD650 dictates the same that you all say: Do not mix with headphones!
However, these very late headphone designs are different than the earlier once and people who had the chance to listen to these new headphones say that the difference is revolutionary.
These headphones might be just as good as a perfectly treated room with a pair of Adam S3X or any other great brand speakers.
I don't know yet. I guess time will tell.

Ultrasone is a fairly new company in Germany and we all know about how great German engineering is. Sennheiser is also German and considered to be the standard among pro engineers. Grado is American and the name Grado is Italian and Grado is a very unique star in the sky of pro audio and many and even mastering engineers mentioned about referencing with Grado SR80is or RS 1is and 2is and how stellar these headphones are.
These are only 3 headphone companies among the best, but I think these designs are the most forward thinking creations presently.
I will look around in my area if there are some good HiFi Centers or any pro audio stores where I can have the chance to try them out and try them out all if possible and will come back to this forum with my first hand opinion.
These are definitely not cheap headphones so unfortunately and especially in this present economical climate it is not possible, at least not for me to buy them all and choose later.

Thank you all for your personal opinions!